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Thoughtful writing, as always. Two points for discussion:

1) I think most--even the most atheistic--would agree that the purpose of life is not only to avoid pain but to experience joy, which is why we as a species don't lightly make the decision to commit suicide. And I suspect an inability to feel joy is the primary reason people do commit suicide, rather than to avoid pain. Is this not why so few committed suicide in concentration camps, but so many survivors of the camps did commit suicide?

2) If murder is wrong because God created us, isn't it also wrong to kill animals, as God would also have created them (and it is certainly not necessary for our survival)? What about insects, also presumably created by God? Perhaps one can find a biblical excuse for the killing of animals or insects, but the bible was written by men, not God. Were those men divinely inspired? What about Joseph Smith and L. Ron Hubbard--must we also follow their dictates? People before and after Moses have had various religious beliefs; what make ours "right" and theirs "wrong"? It all feels pretty arbitrary to me (and subject to various degrees of potential mental illness in some so-called prophets). (But I envy the believers the comfort belief brings.)

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If we are here by accident, it's still a glorious miracle. We are the universe aware of its own unfathomable possibility. Life is the magic fire that changed inert, insensate matter into beings aware of existence, with an ability to have experiences and find purpose.. None of this is to be wasted or diminished.

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