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The Surprising Upside of Daydreaming

A Conversation with Dr. Jonathan Schooler

What if your wandering mind is the key to understanding reality itself? In this deep-cut interview, Dr. Jonathan Schooler joins us to explore the frontiers of consciousness—from meta-awareness and mind-wandering to whether quarks, livers, or blood clots might possess “micro-consciousness.”

Dr. Schooler is a prominent American psychologist specializing in cognitive psychology and its intersections with philosophy. He is a Distinguished Professor of Psychological and Brain Sciences at the University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB). He also serves as Director of UCSB’s Center for Mindfulness and Human Potential and Acting Director of the Sage Center for the Study of the Mind.

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